When, after Bundestag election, 2005 union and SPD had to find a coalition, n justice Minister Brigitte Zypries (SPD) said a nice sentence about first joint cabinet exam: It was "like when porcupines love each or"-in Handling re was "a certain caution" given.

Now one does not know very much about love life of porcupines first-hand, but one has a picture of how coalition have been dealt with each or. Now CDU and CSU are to be found toger (in a Jamaica alliance with FDP and Greens). And those who speak with representatives of sister parties in se days feel strongly reminded of porcupines of that time. The CDU and CSU are trying to reach an agreement, but y are still grained.

Angela Merkel said after election that she could "not recognize what we would have to do differently now". In fact, sentence only referred to election campaign of CDU chief. But Merkel, too, has so far been left unclear, as she now wants to react precisely to bitter losses of 24 September.

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For Horst Seehofer, lessons of Bundestag election are already clear. The CDU and CSU would now have to show population credibly that signal was understood, says CSU chief. This would require clear messages from Chancellor. This concerns not only refugee policy, but also internal security and social issues such as pensions, care or rents. In any case, however, reasons for election result "are not in Bavaria, but in Berlin". What problem is already described.

The CSU believes that a good of guilt for disastrous election result of union lies with Merkel, which chancellor naturally sees differently. But how can one successful coalition talks with FDP and Greens if one does not even agree on one anor on important issues? "Without clarification as to wher we are also sisters of content, we cannot go into exploratory talks," CSU national Group chairman Alexander Dobrindt said shortly after election. The sentence shows how great schism between CDU and CSU is.

This Sunday at noon, first talks between two parties begin on a possible Jamaica coalition. Then CDU and CSU delegations meet in CDU headquarters. In contrast to plan, Bavarian CSU Bundestag Group chairman Thomas Kreuzer and federal Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble (CDU) will also participate in round. This is not good news for CSU. Schäuble is not greatest admirer of Seehofer.

Date Of Update: 06 October 2017, 12:07